Mark Shepherd:
Sure. I think we see that everywhere. We refer to them as NIMBYs, not in my backyard. I have got the BANANAs as well, to build absolutely nothing or anything anywhere.
They exist, but they don’t understand. There are ways to build housing and have it be dignified. And that is crucial to this situation, is to build housing that isn’t your standard tract housing, isn’t your standard affordable, we will call it deeply affordable, that we all view as, oh, that’s the low-income stuff.
We just finished a development in Clearfield that’s about 400 units of both apartments and townhomes. And I toured people through there, through the various new developments within the city and said, pick the one that’s low-income. And not one of them could pick this out. So we went back and toured it, and they said, I cannot believe that this is low-income housing.
It was affordable. It’s the right place, and it’s done right. And it allows people to live with that dignity that they need to without saying, oh, yes, I live in the ghetto or in this deeply affordable housing.